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Is K-Pop growing in Europe?

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boa578
Post Apr 19, 2014 @ 10:13 pm



Article: K-Pop expands with concerts all over Europe

Source: Sports Donga via Naver

1. [+489, -46] Did you guys all know? That the media hypes K-Pop as being famous worldwide but in reality, anyone who listens to K-Pop is treated like anyone who listens to J-Pop in Korea.. an otaku. Foreigners don't know about K-Pop aside from the most famous Psy and you know how all of the K-Pop concert videos do close-ups on foreigners? They're the minority... They just pan the camera where the most foreigners are. The rest are all Korean.. I don't get why K-Pop is so hyped up when it's not that famous overseas ㅋ

2. [+430, -8] It makes me proud but I remember in MBC or somewhere that had a concert, they gave out free tickets to foreigners to fill up their seats so articles like this just seem like media play.

3. [+338, -16] As a student studying abroad in Canada, I don't know how anyone can think K-Pop is famous worldwide. When I saw an article about the Wonder Girls ranking 4th or 3rd on a Canadian chart, I wondered where in the world they got that information from. Aside from Psy, no one knows anything about K-Pop artists.. and where did people get information about CNBLUE being popular in South America? No one in South America knows them aside from students studying abroad there. Of course, aside from Psy, that is.

4. [+143, -10] Well I hope they perform safely..

5. [+75, -5] The gaming industry brings in >>>>>>>>> income compared to K-Pop. Stop media playing about K-Pop and invest more in the gaming industry.

6. [+72, -5] Think about it this way. Not a lot of Koreans know about One Direction, barely even know the names of any of the members. There are just as many who don't know Katy Perry or Ke$ha. In the end, people who are interested in it will listen while the rest don't care. It's just that the particular fan base that does listen to K-Pop is getting larger now.

7. [+67, -2] As a student studying abroad in Germany, I've seen people who don't even know where Korea is over the past two years... The first thing they think of when you say Korea is a divided country at risk of war. I've met one person who knows K-Pop, one who knows SNSD.

8. [+61, -7] Call it Hallyu all you want, K-Pop is just a genre listened to by the minority overseas, like the rock fans in Korea.

9. [+35, -8] People in Europe or North America listen to K-Pop songs and scoff, asking if it's a real song and not trash... And anyone who likes K-Pop over there is treated like an otaku. Don't let the media fool you.

10. [+40, -0] I read interviews from reps over in Europe about KBS and other big company concerts in Europe being canceled because tickets weren't sold. The Hallyu hype is a bubble.

11. [+63, -23] There was an interview on European teens being asked about K-Pop and 20 out of 30 didn't know what it was while the few that did only knew Psy. When shown Super Junior or SNSD music videos, they said only otakus would watch something like this. The ones who listen to K-Pop are a minority... foreigners don't care about K-Pop at all, it's embarrassing how Korea keeps hyping it up like this ㅠㅠ Stop

12. [+45, -5] Just like we can't expect the majority of Koreans to know about foreign artists, we can't expect the majority of foreigners to know about K-Pop artists.

13. [+44, -5] It's a bubble ㅋㅋ There are people in Germany, England, and Spain who flat out don't even know where Korea is.. as if they'd know K-Pop ㅋㅋㅋ

14. [+40, -1] Pathetic how media play about this is still going on

15. [+43, -6] I live in France and nobody knows about K-Pop here. I've never seen one K-Pop album sold in record stores. Stop the media play, it's embarrassing at this point.



badtzmaru
Post Apr 19, 2014 @ 11:25 pm



I guess it's not as big as media makes it be in Korea but it's still a thing.

Though a lot of people don't know K-pop, a bunch of Korean groups are able to hold concerts at Europe -sometimes when they even can't in Korea-.

There are no artists from my european country who would be able to hold a concert in Korea.

That's already quite something in my opinion.


littlejay
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 1:20 am

Kpop may be growing in Europe but I don't see it getting big. The largest country in Europe is Russia and we know kpop will have a difficult time making it there. Then you have Germany, the second largest European country which I don't see kpop getting big in either.

Kpop can grow in the UK and France for sure cause there are lots of Asians there and also they like pop music but there are only 64 million people living in the UK and 65 million in France. Europe is a small market in comparison to Asia which has over 4 billion people.

elemeniah
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 3:57 am

I don't think K-Pop has really made an impact over here. When they were saying it was spreading I was thinking I might see a band on the music channels but no. People only know Psy. But you never know it might take over!


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Craykyungce
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 4:48 am

Everything being said is so true


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special1005
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 5:32 am

well, kpop does expand with concerts in europe, idols actually started to have them here

boa578 wrote:6. [+72, -5] Think about it this way. Not a lot of Koreans know about One Direction, barely even know the names of any of the members. There are just as many who don't know Katy Perry or Ke$ha. In the end, people who are interested in it will listen while the rest don't care. It's just that the particular fan base that does listen to K-Pop is getting larger now.

omg what is it, a sane person, with some likes even

littlejay wrote:Kpop may be growing in Europe but I don't see it getting big. The largest country in Europe is Russia and we know kpop will have a difficult time making it there.

they won't if they choose the venue and location wisely, sm-artists will be enough for people to fill it completely, the thing is - no one wants to bother with kpop, and we are still new to the west/european artists concerts and it's a more proven way to make money


ImSoFreaknSorry
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 5:38 am

All I know is that their ''World Tours'' are a fucking joke.

It's hilarious when certain fandoms brag so much about them.

Have they ever been to Germany or Spain or Italy?


i am not here for bubble gum bullshit.
special1005
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 6:38 am

ImSoFreaknSorry wrote:All I know is that their ''World Tours'' are a fucking joke.

It's hilarious when certain fandoms brag so much about them.

Have they ever been to Germany or Spain or Italy?

uhm, yes they have
and you don't know shit


HallyuNoona
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 7:26 am

O.K. Firstly I work in a Comprehensive school in the U.K.

The vast majority of our kids know where Korea is :P

Secondly,

you all keep talking about populations as a reason KPOP would need to succeed in a particular country, actually the worth of the music industry is a factor too.

Whilst Russia might have a large population, it's music industry isn't hugely grossing. Wikipedia has some sources for the stats on it if anyone is interested:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_industry

If we ignore America exporting out, foreign music is a niche for most markets. I would say Kpop is growing broad even if most people on the street only know Psy. Is the fanbase stronger in areas with high levels or Korean expats? Of course, that is to be expected as they are effectively a core from which it can spread outward.


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ImSoFreaknSorry
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 8:34 am

special1005 wrote:
ImSoFreaknSorry wrote:All I know is that their ''World Tours'' are a fucking joke.

It's hilarious when certain fandoms brag so much about them.

Have they ever been to Germany or Spain or Italy?

uhm, yes they have
and you don't know shit



What?
So, you knew who I was talking about exactly?
Sweet, I think I do sure know some shit, I'm not a nugu kpop fan.


i am not here for bubble gum bullshit.
special1005
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 9:01 am

ImSoFreaknSorry wrote:What?
So, you knew who I was talking about exactly?
Sweet, I think I do sure know some shit, I'm not a nugu kpop fan.

you said "certain fandoms", which kinda narrows down the range of bands
not sure how you're being/not being nugu helps with your knowledge, but niceu niceu, good for you


ImSoFreaknSorry
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 9:45 am

special1005 wrote:
ImSoFreaknSorry wrote:What?
So, you knew who I was talking about exactly?
Sweet, I think I do sure know some shit, I'm not a nugu kpop fan.

you said "certain fandoms", which kinda narrows down the range of bands
not sure how you're being/not being nugu helps with your knowledge, but niceu niceu, good for you


Yeah, so?
Basically no one from the Big 3 ever went there, most likely only for vacation
and I only know two artists which are BEAST & JYJ and that's it.

Then go ahead and name me more.

/Psy doesn't count btw


i am not here for bubble gum bullshit.
Geseki2
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 11:19 am

All the comments are true.
Until english is taught well at schools and english kpop because more popular in korea, they won't have big successes overseas.
And let's not forget, the majority of european countries are made out of shitty countries with a lot of uneducated people.


Jac
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 11:43 am

There is never any focus on Kpop in Latin America which is funny because it is HUGE here.
I had my desktop background as Big Bang at work and one of the IT guys came up and went, "Oh, nice. I like 2PM better, though."
He doesn't speak any language other than Spanish. Raised in a lower class household in Panama. And he knew about Kpop.

And that is just one example.
We have Kcons, stores and competitions here.

Compare the sizes of stages in Europe to the ones SHINee just had in Mexico and Chile.
(Mexico stage shown below)
SHOW SPOILER



There is a massive Asian community in Latin America and so the influence is greater.


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Geseki2
Post Apr 20, 2014 @ 1:07 pm

Jac wrote:There is never any focus on Kpop in Latin America which is funny because it is HUGE here.
I had my desktop background as Big Bang at work and one of the IT guys came up and went, "Oh, nice. I like 2PM better, though."


that says enough really